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Doso's avatar

I very much agree with the general sentiment here. However, I invite you to try to reverse engineer the chains of causality, by observing the results and back-tracking from there to infer the intensity of damage incurred. This is very much what full-fledged empathy does.

I believe I can frame the subtler emotional aspects in a more rational, clear-cut way. Here's a frame of reference of your own, to get started:

"There will never be a time when I am sidelined by suffering unless that suffering literally removes my ability to function."

Let's apply this sound logic to the emotional stuff. One might thus surmise - When a person gets caught up in victim mentality, that suggests the level of emotional suffering indeed has removed their ability to function. For decades I have been there, done that, became that, I can assure you it's not fun. It took me several years to turn things around and open my eyes to reality; I literally nearly had to die in the process. Looking back - I'm not sure change would have actually been possible, otherwise.

These days, I do think very much along the lines of what you wrote here.

But all there while, I clearly understand how complex emotional challenges can be, and I have tremendous respect for people who are stranded in a dark hole, seeming unable to escape. I can see how one can simultaneously be their own prison cell and prison guard and prison key, while simultaneously supposing to have absolutely no say in the matter. I very much know what it *feels* like. That is the gist of having been accustomed/indoctrinated/trained to give away one's personal power.

Overcoming such a position certainly is possible, but it's a tremendous challenge.

It's not any different from learning how to walk again after a debilitating cord injury. There be towering adversarial odds stacked against us, there will be core beliefs sustaining the underlying mentality that need to be re-routed, there will be the need to create and strengthen new neural pathways, there will be a quite compelling tendency to just slide back into old patterns.

Thinking things through as I write it out - I don't think there is at all any difference between physical pain and emotional pain. Pain is pain, and debilitating pain debilitates.

The paradox of the whole victim mentality is that developing resilience is indeed the solution, but lacking resilience was what caused the whole predicament, in the first place. This paradox belies the dangers of the victimization culture - since it cannot fix anything by its own, and can potentially make things worse, on the long run. It would behoove victims to learn a lesson from their abusers, and vice-versa.

Compassionate wallowing is an absolutely necessary part of the healing process, but unless it's followed up with practical accountability, it will inevitably degenerate into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Like trying to build a house in shaky ground.

Then again, trying to enforce practical accountability without allowing oneself room for compassionate wallowing will be akin to trying to grow a garden in sterile harsh ground. Change would hardly flourish.

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Carmen's avatar

Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.

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