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Years ago I had a female friend very seriously propose to me that she and I could start a cult. Understand that she herself came out of a cult and had been raised in a very religious background. She needed that purpose and because she considered me wise because I generally see through peoples BS and had a broad range of religious knowledge I was an obvious leader.

As far as I know she may still consider herself to be a disciple or something. I didn't form a cult because I had by that point in my life developed a personal code that being a guru would conflict with

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Wow Athena you really hit this one out of the ballpark bc you really covered all points in this piece! I am BPD with some ASPD overlap and I basically was left to literally fend for myself on my own at a very young age, I started working at the age of 14 paying rent and stuff and such. I began running with gangs and and doing stupid stuff at first, you covered family and tribalism right? Later I became I born again Christian and that also fell flat like you said, being a follower in these things eventually felt empty especially if a dared to question whoever was 'in power'. And I did that a lot and that ephemeral feeling of 'belonging' didn't last. Later, I attempted to get clean and sober through recovery groups and that also fell flat bc there always seems to be this group mentality and it all felt cultish in the end and cliquey. On some level, I knew it to be true. Of course that doesn't mitigate my PD's either, so I opted to untangle all my life's madness through therapy. I needed to turn inward, get honest get real, stop all the impulsivity and negativity, and take personal responsibility. That's not to say I didn't learn some positive things in joining these groups I definitely did. So I chose not to throw the baby out with the bath water, I took the good but left all the other absurd rules of conduct and ideology behind; it left me feeling so empty and suspicious of people in groups and my pathology just got worse.

I've been out of that lifestyle and clean now since 2008 and frankly shocked that I am alive. There are some residual issues I'm working on but I am grateful to use logical cognition instead of all that messy dysregulated 'anger-ball' of a human I was. And I am super grateful that you write and share from such an honest place, so I thank you! I recently heard an expression about people who are cluster b that hit hard, "the day is long but life is short"..... So true. 💯❤

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