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Colette's avatar

When I read his answer to the surgeon's dilemma, I took his motivations a different way, when he mentions: "Good news." Saving these 5 people are in the doctor's best interest for the sake of his reputation.

I do think killing the guy to save the 5 people is the correct decision in this scenario, as it is.

I literally can't imagine the level of guilt I'd feel from killing someone. I've never done anything that would warrant more than minor guilt. I've heard stories of soldiers haunted their entire lives for killing. I might never be the same. The guilt might manifest in depression and anxiety that would make my life Hell.

But then, if I believe killing the guy is right, I might feel even more guilt if I let the 5 people die. In reality, it'd be a decision I'd make in the moment. What do I feel when I place my scalpel on the guy's throat? Is it guilt or is it conviction? And if it's guilt am I willing to be selfless and sacrifice my mental health as well?

I do try to thoroughly think things through thoroughly and logically in a big picture way. But I'm a highly emotional person, despite how I might seem. And so, I try to take my emotions into account. Really, reading your writings has greatly helped me understand human emotion. If you really want to understand something, you need to see it from both the inside and the outside.

As for baby Hitler? Yeah, I'd kill him, whatever the personal sacrifice. Sure, it could result in a worse future. But in all likelihood, it will result in a better future. There's just too much at stake in the scenario for me to be concerned about baby Hitler or myself.

Though, what I do dislike about these scenarios is that they encourage binary thinking. In reality, first thing anyone is going to do is look for a more favorable option. E.g. kidnap baby Hitler with your TIME MACHINE so he doesn't grow up to be such a monster.

Its also easier to be Utilitarian when the situation is simple. In the real world, things are much more complicated and the consequences of our actions are often uncertain at best, unlike with the doctor. When there's too many variables and uncertainty, people will usually go with what is comfortable and familiar, e.g. not killing someone. After all, you don't want to find out some information later and then regret killing them. Its recognizing that we are fallible and not jumping to an extreme solution when you haven't had the time or info to fully think things through.

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I think the same way about the dilemmas. As for the baby Hitler one, I wrote a whole essay on it for ethics.

I wouldn’t kill Hitler both if I were a time traveler and if I were his contemporary.

In the first case because I find the idea of changing the least weird. Don’t wave fists when the fight is over, as the idiom goes. What has happened has happened, why should we change it? Though even if I didn’t find the idea to be weird, it’s pointless. Contrary to a popular belief not people make history, rather circumstances do. There had already been ultraright ideas in Europe when Hitler was a baby and if not him, someone else could well play his role. Someone better than him, or someone worse. We cannot know if there hadn’t been Hitler, what the history would be, how much more or less victims could have been there, and considering the fact that German nazis were more human than Japanese ones, there could have been more, and how much more or less good things could have appeared after war. As for the good things, for me, if not ww2, my great-grandparents wouldn’t have met, and I certainly wouldn’t want to kill Hitler at the expense of my own life. I like my life much more than I dislike him.

In the second case, if I were his contemporary, I wouldn’t do it because killing him because someone told me that he would grow up to be a war criminal is delusional.

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