“All serial killers are psychopaths, but not all psychopaths are serial killers.”
Yeah, this is indeed a peculiar quote. The act of killing is, well, an ACT, and people always conflate actions with one's brain structure. I feel that is unwise.
What a horrible life when "raised by nuns" is the best part.
George Carlin has a piece about people who hear voices: It is never "go take a dump on the salad bar at Wendy's" or even "Arise and paint the orphanage".... It is always go kill someone.
I really enjoy the story about this man. (not his circumstance or him getting raped, but the story)
Maybe just me: But after strangling the child molester, he turned himself in. AND- at least it is in the record: He felt it was 'wrong' and he should be punished?
I can't even write that without smiling. IF he was a psychopath, he would feel NONE of that!! Correct?
At that point, he sounds like a pretty decent person given the total picture. Like an idealist. Perhaps he thought he could turn himself in and the authorities would "understand"!!
Little did he expect, these authorities would eventually abuse him to the point he no longer speaks English.
Thanks again. I really look forward to more of this story.
I agree, and I have also heard that he has trouble communicating in English any longer due to the isolation. I wonder if that is the case, because I have seen conflicting narratives on the subject. Likely I will include that aspect, with the caveat that it may or may not be true, but it does stand to reason with the lack of human interaction.
This might be a dumb statement but don’t people think in the language? My thoughts, internal narrative and ponderings are all in English because that is my mother tongue. I’m not sure that isolation would remove my ability to communicate in English. Am I missing something? Maybe I talk to myself too much or have a noisy brain!
Is it to do with physical ability to formulate words?
There are a lot of ways that people think, including visual thinkers, so he may be that sort. It also has to do with the wiring that translates thoughts to actual speech. Someone that is mute may well understand how the words are said, but should they suddenly gain the ability to speak, it wouldn't mean that they are capable of forming the words properly. The same goes for someone that doesn't have anyone to speak to. You use, or lose it, I would think.
It’s an interesting concept, all that time in solitary confinement. You would think he would lose his mind completely. I suppose there are still anchors, he will be fed at the same times each day, lights will go on and off at the same times, so these small things might anchor him in reality but I would imagine the lines between the internal and external world become very blurry when a person is alone for so long.
Yes, I see what you mean about the formation of words. He might have words in his own mind but the ability to formulate them or bring more complicated sentence structures to mind might break down over time.
I actually looked up the different ways people think. You’re right, there are numerous including visual, verbal, emotional, kinaesthetic, abstract, musical and intuitive. People use different types of thinking in different circumstances and to solve different kinds of problems. It’s really interesting actually, I had a very lengthy chat with chat GPT establishing my own preferences. So I learned something new today, thank you for that!
I hadn’t considered that. British prisons do allegedly operate a strict daily routine as it is believed to help keep order. Prisoners know what to expect and when, no surprises. Lights out for prisons varies in terms of time but seems to be around 10 pm. Prisoners are in their cells with doors locked etc. I had a little look online but information on this aspect was vague and there are variations between prisons.
Clearly if you are in solitary you are already in your cell so ‘lights out’ might not have the same impact. I don’t even know if lights out is literal or if it just means ‘back to your cells.’
They diagnosed him with several things, but when he was evaluated they seem to have thrown the kitchen, along with all of the utensils in the kitchen at him, so I doubt any of the diagnoses were valid.
I feel so sorry for the boy and man that he was. He didn't deserve any of what was done to him in his youth.
Not to get too political, but I suspect there is going to be a massive rise in these sorts of neglected and abused child cases in the future, with the abortion bans in the US.
There has already been a study on why crime there decreased from the 70s to 20s. Accounting for all variables, abortion access was the only thing that remained.
“All serial killers are psychopaths, but not all psychopaths are serial killers.”
Yeah, this is indeed a peculiar quote. The act of killing is, well, an ACT, and people always conflate actions with one's brain structure. I feel that is unwise.
Indeed, I agree with you
Well, this story is quite interesting and so macabre. I can't wait for the second part to be released.
I think it is going to be a three parter.
I am really interested for more.
What a horrible life when "raised by nuns" is the best part.
George Carlin has a piece about people who hear voices: It is never "go take a dump on the salad bar at Wendy's" or even "Arise and paint the orphanage".... It is always go kill someone.
Yeah, that is notable
I really enjoy the story about this man. (not his circumstance or him getting raped, but the story)
Maybe just me: But after strangling the child molester, he turned himself in. AND- at least it is in the record: He felt it was 'wrong' and he should be punished?
I can't even write that without smiling. IF he was a psychopath, he would feel NONE of that!! Correct?
At that point, he sounds like a pretty decent person given the total picture. Like an idealist. Perhaps he thought he could turn himself in and the authorities would "understand"!!
Little did he expect, these authorities would eventually abuse him to the point he no longer speaks English.
Thanks again. I really look forward to more of this story.
He is a fascinating human being, I agree
Obviously you know how the story ends: I can't see the upside of torturing the guy as they are doing. It is not even an experiment to learn from.
I would be interested in seeing if all of this solitude has affected his way of thinking about himself and others. Probably not, but who knows.
I agree, and I have also heard that he has trouble communicating in English any longer due to the isolation. I wonder if that is the case, because I have seen conflicting narratives on the subject. Likely I will include that aspect, with the caveat that it may or may not be true, but it does stand to reason with the lack of human interaction.
This might be a dumb statement but don’t people think in the language? My thoughts, internal narrative and ponderings are all in English because that is my mother tongue. I’m not sure that isolation would remove my ability to communicate in English. Am I missing something? Maybe I talk to myself too much or have a noisy brain!
Is it to do with physical ability to formulate words?
There are a lot of ways that people think, including visual thinkers, so he may be that sort. It also has to do with the wiring that translates thoughts to actual speech. Someone that is mute may well understand how the words are said, but should they suddenly gain the ability to speak, it wouldn't mean that they are capable of forming the words properly. The same goes for someone that doesn't have anyone to speak to. You use, or lose it, I would think.
It’s an interesting concept, all that time in solitary confinement. You would think he would lose his mind completely. I suppose there are still anchors, he will be fed at the same times each day, lights will go on and off at the same times, so these small things might anchor him in reality but I would imagine the lines between the internal and external world become very blurry when a person is alone for so long.
Yes, I see what you mean about the formation of words. He might have words in his own mind but the ability to formulate them or bring more complicated sentence structures to mind might break down over time.
I actually looked up the different ways people think. You’re right, there are numerous including visual, verbal, emotional, kinaesthetic, abstract, musical and intuitive. People use different types of thinking in different circumstances and to solve different kinds of problems. It’s really interesting actually, I had a very lengthy chat with chat GPT establishing my own preferences. So I learned something new today, thank you for that!
Hmm, I wonder if they actually ever turn off the lights for him. I sort of doubt that they do.
I hadn’t considered that. British prisons do allegedly operate a strict daily routine as it is believed to help keep order. Prisoners know what to expect and when, no surprises. Lights out for prisons varies in terms of time but seems to be around 10 pm. Prisoners are in their cells with doors locked etc. I had a little look online but information on this aspect was vague and there are variations between prisons.
Clearly if you are in solitary you are already in your cell so ‘lights out’ might not have the same impact. I don’t even know if lights out is literal or if it just means ‘back to your cells.’
Would you react to Dr. Ramani med circle interview on narcissist, psychopath and sociopath
I would need a link, might you have it?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dv8zJiggBs
This one
Thank you, I will give it a watch
Did he ever get a legitimate diagnosis?
They diagnosed him with several things, but when he was evaluated they seem to have thrown the kitchen, along with all of the utensils in the kitchen at him, so I doubt any of the diagnoses were valid.
I feel so sorry for the boy and man that he was. He didn't deserve any of what was done to him in his youth.
Not to get too political, but I suspect there is going to be a massive rise in these sorts of neglected and abused child cases in the future, with the abortion bans in the US.
There has already been a study on why crime there decreased from the 70s to 20s. Accounting for all variables, abortion access was the only thing that remained.