Well written, sometimes I'm guilty of finding it difficult to be wrong. We're taught very young it's a bad thing. But I usually come to my senses and do the research, i'd rather be wrong and learn something then be ignorant.
I've seen what you're talking about a lot online. People get down right angry when they find out they were incorrect, or they go into complete denial and shut down. Some will argue they are right no matter what facts are presented. It's interesting for sure.
Emotions effect just about everything us NT's do, lol.
I think it would be useful if we drew a greater distinction between the words 'wrong' and 'mistaken/incorrect'. Your math problem answer was incorrect, your understanding of your friend's mood was mistaken, your nasty conduct towards your younger sibling was wrong.
Nobody does, it's one of those unhelpful vague usages that we seem to be stuck with! Like 'better' in the context of illness, which can mean either improved or fully recovered. Annoying!
Another excellent piece…thank you! Have you ever seen Jordan Klepper, the comedian who goes around and jovially asks random people what they believe about something - COVID vaccines for example - and when they give him a totally ridiculous answer and he (in a very friendly manner) responds with real, factual information, they don’t change their minds. They tell him that what he is saying is false, regardless of how many experts he sites. However, people have chosen to hold onto various beliefs with a (sometimes literal) death grip regardless of what anyone says. Emotions, as you point out, are responsible for this Catch-22 of misinformed/uninformed behavior. I think the people who could benefit the most from what you have written and suggest are the ones who are least likely to consider it.
This is true for many things that people feel strongly about. It is something that I observe in people regarding many things, and of course usually those they feel most strongly about are those that they construct part of their identity around. Instead of it being an idea, it becomes who they are.
Some of that is based in fear of being wrong and perceived as stupid. So hold on to your belief or suffer the pain of disapproval, shame, embarrassment, etc.
Did you write this for me? Hahahaha excellent work Athena very intuitive I will take what was said here to heart as the subject matter is eerily specific to some issues I have good work and I am waiting on the blog about searching information chomping at the bit even…Again good work thank you.
Great post, thank you. It drives me bats that I bump up against that effect so often in people, talking through their butts with increasing beligerance and just looking utter fools. This is the age of Mount Stupid. When I come up against the gazillions of things I know nothing about, I just say, I know nothing about that, I can't comment, tell me. If people then judge me harshly, too bad. I do not understand the fearful need to bluff, outside of a few circumstances like unprepared undergraduate tutorials or job interviews. And yet I am a very fearful person, but not in this respect. But I am thinking that I need to be more understanding, as the fears we have and don't have seem to be apportioned randomly. Except that in this case, the result is so harmful, it's difficult to tolerate.
I believe it was the Scottish philosopher David Hume who wrote something about humans being unable to think without emotions. He seemed to think it was entirely normal and reasonable though however a lot of people think that his hypothesis was deterministic and not in line with having libertarian free will. But it's been a while so I might be recalling incorrectly
Here is an example of someone sticking to the beliefs that she and her husband shared even though it killed him! She continues to spout her nonsense even after he died due to his refusal to accept science. I’m sure this woman still believes she is being logical. https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPd6YJpwS/
Well written, sometimes I'm guilty of finding it difficult to be wrong. We're taught very young it's a bad thing. But I usually come to my senses and do the research, i'd rather be wrong and learn something then be ignorant.
I've seen what you're talking about a lot online. People get down right angry when they find out they were incorrect, or they go into complete denial and shut down. Some will argue they are right no matter what facts are presented. It's interesting for sure.
Emotions effect just about everything us NT's do, lol.
I think it would be useful if we drew a greater distinction between the words 'wrong' and 'mistaken/incorrect'. Your math problem answer was incorrect, your understanding of your friend's mood was mistaken, your nasty conduct towards your younger sibling was wrong.
Ok well, I guess I should have said incorrect.
Nobody does, it's one of those unhelpful vague usages that we seem to be stuck with! Like 'better' in the context of illness, which can mean either improved or fully recovered. Annoying!
Another excellent piece…thank you! Have you ever seen Jordan Klepper, the comedian who goes around and jovially asks random people what they believe about something - COVID vaccines for example - and when they give him a totally ridiculous answer and he (in a very friendly manner) responds with real, factual information, they don’t change their minds. They tell him that what he is saying is false, regardless of how many experts he sites. However, people have chosen to hold onto various beliefs with a (sometimes literal) death grip regardless of what anyone says. Emotions, as you point out, are responsible for this Catch-22 of misinformed/uninformed behavior. I think the people who could benefit the most from what you have written and suggest are the ones who are least likely to consider it.
This is true for many things that people feel strongly about. It is something that I observe in people regarding many things, and of course usually those they feel most strongly about are those that they construct part of their identity around. Instead of it being an idea, it becomes who they are.
Some of that is based in fear of being wrong and perceived as stupid. So hold on to your belief or suffer the pain of disapproval, shame, embarrassment, etc.
Here’s a great illustration of this: https://youtu.be/Z-pw0k67BNA
Unbelievable
Did you write this for me? Hahahaha excellent work Athena very intuitive I will take what was said here to heart as the subject matter is eerily specific to some issues I have good work and I am waiting on the blog about searching information chomping at the bit even…Again good work thank you.
I am glad that you liked it, Marcus
Love that diagram too!
Great post, thank you. It drives me bats that I bump up against that effect so often in people, talking through their butts with increasing beligerance and just looking utter fools. This is the age of Mount Stupid. When I come up against the gazillions of things I know nothing about, I just say, I know nothing about that, I can't comment, tell me. If people then judge me harshly, too bad. I do not understand the fearful need to bluff, outside of a few circumstances like unprepared undergraduate tutorials or job interviews. And yet I am a very fearful person, but not in this respect. But I am thinking that I need to be more understanding, as the fears we have and don't have seem to be apportioned randomly. Except that in this case, the result is so harmful, it's difficult to tolerate.
I believe it was the Scottish philosopher David Hume who wrote something about humans being unable to think without emotions. He seemed to think it was entirely normal and reasonable though however a lot of people think that his hypothesis was deterministic and not in line with having libertarian free will. But it's been a while so I might be recalling incorrectly
That is very interesting. I wonder if he is correct, or if this is one of those places that neurotypicals and psychopaths differ.
Here is an example of someone sticking to the beliefs that she and her husband shared even though it killed him! She continues to spout her nonsense even after he died due to his refusal to accept science. I’m sure this woman still believes she is being logical. https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPd6YJpwS/
Wow
I agree. Being wrong should simply be a reordering of your understanding, not an indictment on the person as a while.