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I'm trying to get why a sexual serial killer would be pro-social anything?

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Mar 31, 2022·edited Apr 7, 2022Liked by Athena Walker

1) I agree that Ted Bundy had NPD. In Elizabeth Kendall's book "The Phantom Prince: My Life with Ted Bundy" Ted is described as a vulnerable person with unstable self-esteem. He was also often nervous and after the trial (in 1976) his clothes were all wet with nervous sweat. He was also often jealous of Liz. He often cried and was sad. This behavior is not like the behavior of a psychopath.

2) He also cannot have SPD. Relations with Liz were very turbulent from the very beginning. They moved in together too quickly. He was close to her psychologically and physically. Often spoke words of love. He told her his secrets. He was constantly striving for prestige. He extremely wanted to look handsome, sophisticated. He was worried about what people would think of him. He wanted to be associated with the "top" of society. It doesn’t look like a schizoid at all, and I say this as a person with SPD.

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Apr 1, 2022Liked by Athena Walker

Hi Athena,

This is a bit unrelated to the post and I know you get a lot of questions like this, but this time I really think that this serial killer might be an actual clinical criminal psychopath. Please read until the end as you might find it interesting! His name is Futoshi Matsunaga and he did many horrific things even though it seems like he had a relatively normal upbringing. I don't think you ever covered this person in any of your posts, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Based on his wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futoshi_Matsunaga) and murderpedia (https://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/matsunaga-futoshi.htm), we have the following:

"Futoshi Matsunaga was born in Kokurakita Ward of the city of Kitakyūshū in Fukuoka Prefecture, and grew up in Yanagawa. Matsunaga received good grades in school and had a charming personality, but tended to exhibit disciplinary problems. He was transferred to another high school after engaging in a relationship with a junior high school girl. He married at 19 and had a son."

Intelligent, charming, but also a juvenile delinquent. Married early.

"Despite being married, Matsunaga was involved with at least ten mistresses."

Highly sexually promiscuous.

"Despite being married, Matsunaga was involved with at least ten mistresses. In October 1982, during his marriage, he became involved with Junko Ogata, one of his former schoolmates from Yanagawa. In 1984, Matsunaga promised to marry Junko, but her mother, Shizumi Ogata, did not approve of the relationship because of Matsunaga's abuse of her daughter. Matsunaga raped Shizumi as a result. In 1985, Matsunaga convinced Junko that her family hated her because of a suicide attempt and persuaded her to move in with him."

Cunning/Manipulative, lack of empathy, lack of remorse. I'm not clear as to what happened to his kid. If he abandoned him, that's also irresponsibility.

In the wikipedia of Junko Ogata (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junko_Ogata), it also says that she was wealthy (maybe that's why he chose her and it also says that her personality changed after she met him so maybe she was easily influenced -- another reason he chose her) and that he abused her severely.

Moreover, "He insisted that Junko's mother tried to seduce him, so he abused her, but during the trial Junko began to suspect that Matsunaga had raped her mother"

He was lying to her and failing to accept any responsibility (rationalizing his actions).

Additionally:

"Matsunaga lived in a condominium in Kokurakita-ku. His first victim was a married woman with three children. In April 1993, he convinced her to leave her husband and run away with him, telling the woman that Junko was his sister. One of her children died under mysterious circumstances in September 1993. Her two other children went to live with their father and grandfather the following month. During their relationship, Matsunaga defrauded the woman for 11.8 million yen (about US$145,510). She died mysteriously in March 1994, and the police were unable to prove that Matsunaga had killed the woman or her child."

Parasitic lifestyle, more deceitfulness.

"Soon after, Matsunaga found another target in a female acquaintance of Kumio. He convinced the woman that he was a graduate of Kyoto University and promised to marry her. Instead, he defrauded her of 5.6 million yen (about US$69,066). As before, the woman and her daughter were confined to Matsunaga's apartment. The woman escaped by jumping from the second floor in March 1997. She was put into the care of a mental hospital and her daughter was released."

And so on. These are just some little snippets that I posted while hoping that it might peek your interest even just a little bit.

Having said all this, could I most kindly request that you look into this case as it seems like this person might be a genuine psychopath and I haven't really seen other people write about him. It seems quite interesting, but I'm not nearly as educated on the topic of psychopathy as you are, so I'd like to have someone with expertise like you to take a look at it.

Thank you very much and I really hope you see this! I love your substack!!

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Apr 1, 2022Liked by Athena Walker

It's worth to notice that much like psychopathy is not ASPD, narcissism is not NPD.

People keep forgetting it's the *disorder* that is the problem, not the trait.

"Narcissism" is just another word for self-esteem. It's a valuable, even essential human trait.

A person can have too little narcissism and be a victim, or they can have too much and be an abuser, or they can have the right, flexible amount - and be a healthy human.

NPD is another word for "being addicted to replenishing one's self-esteem directly at someone else's expense (often obliviously so), as though life were a zero-sum game." The irony is that people who have NPD don't actually have self-esteem, which is why they're over reliant on others-esteem.

In other words, pathological narcissists don't really have healthy narcissism.

By analogy, maybe it could be inferred that ASPD's don't have healthy psychopathy.

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Apr 1, 2022Liked by Athena Walker

I really have to say I get such a kick from your sense of humour sometimes. The line ‘last helicopter out of Nam’ had me laughing out loud.

I found this article the most erroneous also. It was the first one I read by the author, and when I saw the comments and attention it got, I was saddened that people just assume that, if a person writes like they are an expert, they should just be believed. Every single thing should considered critically. What varies is the amount of energy applied. If you are reading an article from a source you already trust, very little. If you are reading something from an unknown author making claims, take your time and think. If the world could just do this, and practice careful consideration and proceed with logic, not emotion, we’d live in a veritable utopia - with fewer serial killers, at least! I admit to how difficult this is (I actively fight my very emotional brain all the time), but the ability to do it is what separates us from other animals.

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> If someone is addicted to sex, they are not a psychopath.

If someone is "addicted to sex" they are using a cop out. Sex addiction is not even a real thing and the world's heroin and meth addicts laugh at everyone who is stupid enough to believe they're a sex addict.

The propaganda regarding psychopaths really has gone too far, from serial killers to mass murderers. There are psychologists out there who described Adolf Hitler as a neurotic psychopath which is an absolute oxymoron. With Ted Bundy and other serial killers I'm almost at the pointing of wanting to scream out "WHO CARES?!" He's already been so oversensationalized for being white, somewhat charming and not ugly.

Perhaps the most ironic part about how much misinformation came about regarding psychopathy through the lens of psychiatry is that the father of psychiatry Sigmund Freud himself is now being suspected of having psychopathy. Such madness, I can't take anything with the word psychopathy involved seriously anymore if it was published before a certain date and doesn't have hard science or personal experience involved in the source.

Even autism doesn't have the same stigma when it comes to deviant brain structure but sadly it still exists even there. Though, autistics often face far less deleterious stigma than psychopaths.

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Apr 2, 2022Liked by Athena Walker

From what you have said about your SO, he sounds like a very remarkable person. A psychopath's usually successful manipulation tactics not working on him is no small thing, won't you agree? My question is, what is it about him that makes him so different from other NTs? Is that why you were attracted to him in the first place?

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