As a twin, I can attest to an X factor that massively differentiates kids from birth. Same home, same school, same everything in terms of context, but completely different outcomes. My twin and I were visited by a professor who was looking at genetics and we were tested as only having one chromosomal difference between us, yet we were extremely different from birth onwards. So, what is that X factor? There is an essence that made us different even from birth - and that is something that is routinely ignored in the research of what constitutes 'selfhood'.
My mother had a twin brother. Same house and everything. They literally could not be more different. She is nurturing, passionate, and hates maths. He is somewhat detached and is an accountant.
Fraternal twins. Basically just regular siblings who happened to share a womb. Also different sexes/genders, which is also an important factor in sibling differences.
People still like to link every human shitty behavior to being psychopathic. That's funny. I was once called sociopath just because I lack a huge deal of emotional empathy and whenever someone is presenting me with their emotional problems, I tend to approach the situation quite indifferent, not really because I don't care, but because I can't feel what they feel. But I'm listening and if possible I even present some pieces of advice. However I was called a "sociopath", just because of that. They really like to just throw the "P-word" out there, mislabeling people when in reality it's just human being doing human being stuff haha
Indeed they do. It's very strange to me that the idea of "psychopathy" or "sociopathy" basically equates to "person I don't understand and therefore must demonize" to so many people.
i do really well in emotional/crisis situations where other people freeze up because i won't feel anything related to it for weeks, maybe months, since my response is delayed. but because i don't respond how everyone else does, i have been called sociopathic, cold, unempathetic, etc too. have also been called this for not responding correctly (i usually try to present solutions and have learned that many people don't like this) when people tell me things that are going on.👌🏼 no, ma'am, not a sociopath. i have the 'tism.
"All kids lie, all kids lack empathy, and all kids have literally no impulse control." Um, no. I can't swear that I never lied, but I definitely had both empathy and impulse control -- and that was true by the age of 4 or 5. I needed them in order to survive the toxic environment my father created. Now okay, perhaps I was just as selfish before that as you claim all children are, and perhaps I got "life lessons" unusually early in this regard.
Aside from that, another awesome article here critiquing yet another "professional" article that conflates psychopathy with psychopathology, and also views psychopathy as behavior instead of as brain wiring. Also the way you point out "irresponsibility and lack of personal accountability."
I think a lot of parents of "problematical" children need better help than they get for effective ideas about parenting. When I say "effective", I mean strategies that work to enable kids to grow up into healthy and responsible adults.
By four or five you have learned some of that. You certainly were not born with it. No one is. By four or five behavioral modification is well underway.
Well sure. We're born with the reflex to suck, the ability to piss and poop and learn other stuff, and not a whole lot more than that, aside from "being cute" so that parents don't kill their offspring. I had the impression you were saying that even teenagers didn't have those things. But if I'm wrong about what you meant, that wouldn't be the first or only time I've been wrong about something. :-)
Tell me something. Being so self sufficient, not requiring any emotional connection, how do you have the friends you currently have. Did you approach then first, or have people always gravitated towards you on their own?
There are people that I have crossed paths with in my life that happen to be compatible with me as a person. After that, friendships develop over long periods of time.
"What if the source of all the problems in the world—and this includes wetiko—is the age-old tradition of child abuse, which has touched all of us in one way or another? For the sake of clarity I need to define terms, as child abuse is so loaded. Many people associate child abuse with physical beating, sexual abuse, and severe neglect of children. But to the extent that our parents were not fully enlightened (and whose were?), child abuse is something we have all suffered from in its more elusive, hard-to-see forms as well as its blatant forms.
When there is conditional love based on our performance or behavior, when we become socialized and are supposed to be a good boy or girl, when our parents vicariously live their unlived lives out through our accomplishments, or when our parents unconsciously act out their own unhealed abuse and tell you it’s “for your own good”—these are all forms of very real child abuse. When we receive crazy-making mixed messages from our parents in which they say one thing but their energy expresses something else; when our urge toward emotional independence and autonomy is rejected; when our perceptions are denied; when our expressions of our own unique and creative self are marginalized or criticized—all these are covert forms of child abuse too. All of these actions by adults can potentially obstruct a child in the natural process of growing into who they truly are.
These unconscious re-actions by parents can potentially be introjected and internalized into the child’s psyche, where they then become the inner oppressive voices that to the extent they aren’t integrated, develop a seeming life of their own that can significantly hamper the child’s development. Once the child becomes an adult, these internalized voices can stifle its ability to access, express, and embody its intrinsic autonomy and self-sovereignty."
-Paul Levy, "Undreaming Wetiko: Breaking the Spell of the Nightmare Mind-Virus"
You remind me of Stefan Molyneux's information who talks a lot about how child abuse is the worst thing plaguing our society and wrote a book about a Utopian future based on the fact that future generations had the insight that child abuse is where all problems start.
To me I also wonder about pure physiology though. The amount of poison going into our food and such has to have some sort of effect on brain chemistry.
How many people had problems that could have been solved by therapy yet they live in poverty so these problems never get solved? I think it is everything personally.
And I'm not playing the on record bs I've seen over and over you will never make it suicide to me I'd better then that I have children understand that my actions will cause...............
I do not have an online presence I do not have facebook twitter instagram etc. I joined this solely to talk to you. I am a psychopath I would be classified as a high functioning one. I've also been IQ tested multiple times on Dave range from the low one seventies. To the low one nineties. Also as a child I experienced Is profound abuse That would classify as all three. Types of abuse I'll just describe my Life you. Can? Try. To understand my problem. I've tried to get help and can't so because of my i q scores I Recruited by said entity Somehow they knew about my abuse it was explained to me. I could use a train and put my psychopathy to use or or take my risk as a civiliand most likely become a serial killer. Everything in my body and mind screamed yes understand I was just called a contracso when I went on any Project. I was there independently without any support absolutely no absolutely no? Diplomatic. Immunity? And from day one it was understood if I was never coming home the highest stakes. There are so I did that and I Excelled I trained in psychology gene behaviors different types of warfare espionage you name it. So over years I This was my sole purpose and focus I will never reveal anything I will never put anyone at risk However that's over it's been over for quite some time I have a civilian craft. I was able to pay my bills but in this world just so happens. It's not unlike an undercover police agent or a t f my cover was Blown Meaning I was not only elevated as a psychopath but basically as a serial killer Mainly but also contract killer in the United stit's which is which is not true. I was never formally charged but I wasn't the best thing but I was investigated followed you name. It by fed's and higher ups Said entity did step in and protect me to a degree. But because of that my nest egg financially I had built Has been taken the idea was to reti had plenty of business plans. But foolishly I thought now I can get the medical attention. I desperately need cause you have to understand I technically did not exist so I walked into a hospital. Assisted by someone who is telling them that what I was saying was true and to help however. They viewed me aint found major skull fractures jaw fractures multiple narrow instructions of course breaks all over my body including spine. Alarm along with evidence of self Surgery in multiple gunshot wounds that had never been on record. So of course anything in human reaction when it's not understood it's feared they immediately locked me down And had I psychologist observe me Of course I was a smart a** So they put me in An institution. I went through a cycle of getting kicked out of one after another to the point Tell me their oh we got a place for people like you I was there 3weeks Minds you I'm telling the truth for the first time in my life I thought there would be a process to where they could find this information now. No that's not their reaction So I didn't respond in an appropriate manner. I didn't even know this was possible if you don't believe it I can prove it. I am now banned from mental institutionshit. I cannot even go to a normal hospital for a medical reason. They locked me in a security section. With armed cops (multiple)with no intention of Helping me They did give do a cat scan told me nothing In the minimum institutions in my medical record no. Didn't I have paperwork saying I am? An extreme danger to society in a narrow opinion has to be medicated. In order and the odd thing is it's not like they're suggesting anti psychotropic medicatior even Anti-depressants they fall in the line. Of mood stabilizers which actually do help with Is impulse control so the problem i'm having I constantly feel I'm being watched followed and there's a imminent threat to my like going on public and when I do I'm having difficulty. Putting the mask on and I start blatantly blatantly toying with people it could be a number of different things. But the problem is like I can't turn it off. I'm really concerned. I'm going to hurt someone that I'm going to perceive as a threat when in fact. It's just going to be a normal civilian. But it's what I worry about the most. I know it's odd For a psychopath to seek help please understand this is not a brag. This is my realady and I see it as a problem I am a killing machine. Walking around in public thinking everyone is out to get me.just as a precaution I no longer Travel with the firearms on my person or in my car. I would rather die than make that wrong decision. It's getting to the pointowards someti. Should I feel as if I should put a bullet in my own head For the soul purpose of saving lives. I refuse to become to people I hate. Sometimes I won't leave my house for weeks at a time sometimes I won't shower up
To 2weeks That's not me I had the 0 interest and even sex I'm 35. The opposite sexist always called me. Really handsome or extremely attractive because of because of psychopathy. I like to base opinions from others. I try to have a checklist of what not to do such asuch as manipulate for personal gain. Or do not Lie unless it's based on my actual survival I essentially try to bring wash or reprogran. My own brain that seems to work for some time in some situations. I will never play the one up game. I will never knowingly manipulate you. I've read all the psychology books. However I've never. Interacted what's another one like me? I've been erected without the geniuses. Profound as I can be it's lin terms of the dark ideas you can explore Please take time out to help A like minded indigital trust me trust me. I've heard myself these people do not want us to communicate. I think us helping each other it will be extremely mutual beneficial. I have answers to your darkest questions by the have clearance to tell my story. Of course I can't go into details such as names and locations etc or even times. I need some sort of purpose or Direction because the place is my mind is going. It's not good and I do not want to add to the narrative of us. I really need someone I don't have to hide Project the facade and someone who can tell me like it is please thank you.
As a twin, I can attest to an X factor that massively differentiates kids from birth. Same home, same school, same everything in terms of context, but completely different outcomes. My twin and I were visited by a professor who was looking at genetics and we were tested as only having one chromosomal difference between us, yet we were extremely different from birth onwards. So, what is that X factor? There is an essence that made us different even from birth - and that is something that is routinely ignored in the research of what constitutes 'selfhood'.
That's awesome
My mother had a twin brother. Same house and everything. They literally could not be more different. She is nurturing, passionate, and hates maths. He is somewhat detached and is an accountant.
That is really interesting
Fraternal twins. Basically just regular siblings who happened to share a womb. Also different sexes/genders, which is also an important factor in sibling differences.
People still like to link every human shitty behavior to being psychopathic. That's funny. I was once called sociopath just because I lack a huge deal of emotional empathy and whenever someone is presenting me with their emotional problems, I tend to approach the situation quite indifferent, not really because I don't care, but because I can't feel what they feel. But I'm listening and if possible I even present some pieces of advice. However I was called a "sociopath", just because of that. They really like to just throw the "P-word" out there, mislabeling people when in reality it's just human being doing human being stuff haha
Indeed they do. It's very strange to me that the idea of "psychopathy" or "sociopathy" basically equates to "person I don't understand and therefore must demonize" to so many people.
i relate to this^
i do really well in emotional/crisis situations where other people freeze up because i won't feel anything related to it for weeks, maybe months, since my response is delayed. but because i don't respond how everyone else does, i have been called sociopathic, cold, unempathetic, etc too. have also been called this for not responding correctly (i usually try to present solutions and have learned that many people don't like this) when people tell me things that are going on.👌🏼 no, ma'am, not a sociopath. i have the 'tism.
The 'tism?
autism
Thanks.
"All kids lie, all kids lack empathy, and all kids have literally no impulse control." Um, no. I can't swear that I never lied, but I definitely had both empathy and impulse control -- and that was true by the age of 4 or 5. I needed them in order to survive the toxic environment my father created. Now okay, perhaps I was just as selfish before that as you claim all children are, and perhaps I got "life lessons" unusually early in this regard.
Aside from that, another awesome article here critiquing yet another "professional" article that conflates psychopathy with psychopathology, and also views psychopathy as behavior instead of as brain wiring. Also the way you point out "irresponsibility and lack of personal accountability."
I think a lot of parents of "problematical" children need better help than they get for effective ideas about parenting. When I say "effective", I mean strategies that work to enable kids to grow up into healthy and responsible adults.
By four or five you have learned some of that. You certainly were not born with it. No one is. By four or five behavioral modification is well underway.
Well sure. We're born with the reflex to suck, the ability to piss and poop and learn other stuff, and not a whole lot more than that, aside from "being cute" so that parents don't kill their offspring. I had the impression you were saying that even teenagers didn't have those things. But if I'm wrong about what you meant, that wouldn't be the first or only time I've been wrong about something. :-)
Tell me something. Being so self sufficient, not requiring any emotional connection, how do you have the friends you currently have. Did you approach then first, or have people always gravitated towards you on their own?
There are people that I have crossed paths with in my life that happen to be compatible with me as a person. After that, friendships develop over long periods of time.
"What if the source of all the problems in the world—and this includes wetiko—is the age-old tradition of child abuse, which has touched all of us in one way or another? For the sake of clarity I need to define terms, as child abuse is so loaded. Many people associate child abuse with physical beating, sexual abuse, and severe neglect of children. But to the extent that our parents were not fully enlightened (and whose were?), child abuse is something we have all suffered from in its more elusive, hard-to-see forms as well as its blatant forms.
When there is conditional love based on our performance or behavior, when we become socialized and are supposed to be a good boy or girl, when our parents vicariously live their unlived lives out through our accomplishments, or when our parents unconsciously act out their own unhealed abuse and tell you it’s “for your own good”—these are all forms of very real child abuse. When we receive crazy-making mixed messages from our parents in which they say one thing but their energy expresses something else; when our urge toward emotional independence and autonomy is rejected; when our perceptions are denied; when our expressions of our own unique and creative self are marginalized or criticized—all these are covert forms of child abuse too. All of these actions by adults can potentially obstruct a child in the natural process of growing into who they truly are.
These unconscious re-actions by parents can potentially be introjected and internalized into the child’s psyche, where they then become the inner oppressive voices that to the extent they aren’t integrated, develop a seeming life of their own that can significantly hamper the child’s development. Once the child becomes an adult, these internalized voices can stifle its ability to access, express, and embody its intrinsic autonomy and self-sovereignty."
-Paul Levy, "Undreaming Wetiko: Breaking the Spell of the Nightmare Mind-Virus"
https://www.awakeninthedream.com/undreaming-wetiko
You remind me of Stefan Molyneux's information who talks a lot about how child abuse is the worst thing plaguing our society and wrote a book about a Utopian future based on the fact that future generations had the insight that child abuse is where all problems start.
To me I also wonder about pure physiology though. The amount of poison going into our food and such has to have some sort of effect on brain chemistry.
How many people had problems that could have been solved by therapy yet they live in poverty so these problems never get solved? I think it is everything personally.
And I'm not playing the on record bs I've seen over and over you will never make it suicide to me I'd better then that I have children understand that my actions will cause...............
So talk to text made multiple error I apologize
I do not have an online presence I do not have facebook twitter instagram etc. I joined this solely to talk to you. I am a psychopath I would be classified as a high functioning one. I've also been IQ tested multiple times on Dave range from the low one seventies. To the low one nineties. Also as a child I experienced Is profound abuse That would classify as all three. Types of abuse I'll just describe my Life you. Can? Try. To understand my problem. I've tried to get help and can't so because of my i q scores I Recruited by said entity Somehow they knew about my abuse it was explained to me. I could use a train and put my psychopathy to use or or take my risk as a civiliand most likely become a serial killer. Everything in my body and mind screamed yes understand I was just called a contracso when I went on any Project. I was there independently without any support absolutely no absolutely no? Diplomatic. Immunity? And from day one it was understood if I was never coming home the highest stakes. There are so I did that and I Excelled I trained in psychology gene behaviors different types of warfare espionage you name it. So over years I This was my sole purpose and focus I will never reveal anything I will never put anyone at risk However that's over it's been over for quite some time I have a civilian craft. I was able to pay my bills but in this world just so happens. It's not unlike an undercover police agent or a t f my cover was Blown Meaning I was not only elevated as a psychopath but basically as a serial killer Mainly but also contract killer in the United stit's which is which is not true. I was never formally charged but I wasn't the best thing but I was investigated followed you name. It by fed's and higher ups Said entity did step in and protect me to a degree. But because of that my nest egg financially I had built Has been taken the idea was to reti had plenty of business plans. But foolishly I thought now I can get the medical attention. I desperately need cause you have to understand I technically did not exist so I walked into a hospital. Assisted by someone who is telling them that what I was saying was true and to help however. They viewed me aint found major skull fractures jaw fractures multiple narrow instructions of course breaks all over my body including spine. Alarm along with evidence of self Surgery in multiple gunshot wounds that had never been on record. So of course anything in human reaction when it's not understood it's feared they immediately locked me down And had I psychologist observe me Of course I was a smart a** So they put me in An institution. I went through a cycle of getting kicked out of one after another to the point Tell me their oh we got a place for people like you I was there 3weeks Minds you I'm telling the truth for the first time in my life I thought there would be a process to where they could find this information now. No that's not their reaction So I didn't respond in an appropriate manner. I didn't even know this was possible if you don't believe it I can prove it. I am now banned from mental institutionshit. I cannot even go to a normal hospital for a medical reason. They locked me in a security section. With armed cops (multiple)with no intention of Helping me They did give do a cat scan told me nothing In the minimum institutions in my medical record no. Didn't I have paperwork saying I am? An extreme danger to society in a narrow opinion has to be medicated. In order and the odd thing is it's not like they're suggesting anti psychotropic medicatior even Anti-depressants they fall in the line. Of mood stabilizers which actually do help with Is impulse control so the problem i'm having I constantly feel I'm being watched followed and there's a imminent threat to my like going on public and when I do I'm having difficulty. Putting the mask on and I start blatantly blatantly toying with people it could be a number of different things. But the problem is like I can't turn it off. I'm really concerned. I'm going to hurt someone that I'm going to perceive as a threat when in fact. It's just going to be a normal civilian. But it's what I worry about the most. I know it's odd For a psychopath to seek help please understand this is not a brag. This is my realady and I see it as a problem I am a killing machine. Walking around in public thinking everyone is out to get me.just as a precaution I no longer Travel with the firearms on my person or in my car. I would rather die than make that wrong decision. It's getting to the pointowards someti. Should I feel as if I should put a bullet in my own head For the soul purpose of saving lives. I refuse to become to people I hate. Sometimes I won't leave my house for weeks at a time sometimes I won't shower up
To 2weeks That's not me I had the 0 interest and even sex I'm 35. The opposite sexist always called me. Really handsome or extremely attractive because of because of psychopathy. I like to base opinions from others. I try to have a checklist of what not to do such asuch as manipulate for personal gain. Or do not Lie unless it's based on my actual survival I essentially try to bring wash or reprogran. My own brain that seems to work for some time in some situations. I will never play the one up game. I will never knowingly manipulate you. I've read all the psychology books. However I've never. Interacted what's another one like me? I've been erected without the geniuses. Profound as I can be it's lin terms of the dark ideas you can explore Please take time out to help A like minded indigital trust me trust me. I've heard myself these people do not want us to communicate. I think us helping each other it will be extremely mutual beneficial. I have answers to your darkest questions by the have clearance to tell my story. Of course I can't go into details such as names and locations etc or even times. I need some sort of purpose or Direction because the place is my mind is going. It's not good and I do not want to add to the narrative of us. I really need someone I don't have to hide Project the facade and someone who can tell me like it is please thank you.