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J.L.W's avatar

I remember when I used to go around to my super delicate little half sister. Who was about 12- 14 at the time. I always felt strongly that even though I am her brother, she and the family know nothing about me and I didn't really want to be with her unsupervised. I didn't want to deal with the fear even if she wouldn't acknowledge it I would rather just a public place or something, I remember distinctly one time she flinched when I hugged her. Her mother was raped by a family member when she was younger.

But people don't get this perspective in general I find. That they don't owe me trust and I don't owe them trust, trust I often can't give because it's a purely emotional thought and that's simply not how I make decisions. If they are hurt I don't trust them at some point, they should know the trade is I don't expect them to trust me., and that that is a gift. I had this at other times like not wanting to be in a workplace with a female staff member alone with no cameras. People really don't get it. They say things like: "Haven't you seen her socially outside work?" and such... Is that the bar for trust now?

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Ellie Smith's avatar

Honestly, I don’t think we even need to go as far as life threatening situations in order to justify “rudeness”. Miscommunication happens all the time and just because someone is “rude” that doesn’t mean that that was the intent.

I’ve taken a few lessons in American Sign Language (ASL) and a few things that are considered rude generally, are extensively used in ASL. For instance it’s considered rude to point; in ASL pointing is extensively used to refer to people and places.

I’ve also taken toastmasters years ago to learn public speaking and one of the things they teach is to avoid moving your hands too much since it’s a distraction to the audience. I don’t think I need to explain why moving your hands is important for a sign language.

I find navigating the social landscape of politeness to be tricky to say the least. My natural inclination towards the matter is that if you’re not harming anyone, then what you’re doing is nobody else’s business, but that’s not way the world is. For some reason old people can’t be called old people, but they can call anyone younger than them kids. For some reason ignoring people is rude but demanding attention is not. Then there are the people who think disagreeing with them is rude or people who think it’s rude for someone they see as lower status to not obey them.

How much are the rules of politeness there just to enforce certain power structures? How much is it there to actually prevent people from being offended?

This system is absolutely ridiculous and honestly thinking about it makes me angry, because I know there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.

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